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Have you ever read a self-help book?
Have you ever read a self-help book to help you deal with a problem?


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7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 8/24/14 - 4:13:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
Me, I'm currently in the middle of a book that's helping me learn to deal with anxiety and Aspergers syndrome. I really think it's helping.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 8/24/14 - 5:30:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
Never.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 8/24/14 - 5:33:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm currently working my way through 'Teach yourself to read'.

Thankfully, it's a picture book.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 6:46:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/24/14 - 5:33:22 PM DaveW wrote:
I'm currently working my way through 'Teach yourself to read'. Thankfully, it's a picture book.

7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 12:59:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
I thought about reading that one by that guy who supposedly makes you stop smoking. But I didn't read it, so, no.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 2:42:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
The Bible
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 3:32:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
And here I thought the point of something being a self help book was that you actually followed its advice...
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 4:04:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
Mathew 7-3.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 4:07:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 4:24:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/27/14 - 4:04:59 PM Boredofu wrote:
Mathew 7-3.

2 problems.

1) quoting that at someone has its own obvious consequences (it applies to you too bored).

2) That's all well and good. But one would have to believe in it to follow it. And that's the thing, if I'm going to call it a self help book, no matter what the book is, I have to respect it enough to do as it says (at least to try it), and not just invent my own plan any time I don't like what it says. Otherwise, why buy the book? So I'm not referring to anyone's ability to follow any particular scripture (the point of the verse you pulled out) but their stated desire to do so at all.If you applied that verse as widely as you'd have to to cover this situation, then all of the verses concerning discernment mean nothing. I'm thinking you cast too wide a net in this case instead.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 4:32:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
You would of course become self righteous about it, which was exactly what I expected from you.

You judge everyone else,, then you judge yourself blind to all others.

In short you think that your own sh*t doesn't stink but you had chilli for dinner.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 4:51:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Since surely you aren't being mean, dacash, what help is it you're offering me here, in this thread where I posted first w/o saying anything to you or about you at all?
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 6:24:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
Do you even understand what self-righteous means? What I just said is the very opposite. You might want to say pedantic, or strict, or even bible thumping, but it is not SELF righteous.

And it seems when you got angry was when I pointed out what you said should be evenly applied to you bored...

7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 6:37:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
LOL there you go making your own judgements yet bathed in your own shining virtue.

I have to respect it enough to do as it says (at least to try it), and not just invent my own plan any time I don't like what it says.

That's the opposite of self righteous is it?

Let's make it real. You've stalked IRL all over this site for years playing your snidey little "I'm a better Christian than you" game and act like you're the angel f*cking Gabriel.

You're a f*cking cockroach.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 8/27/14 - 6:50:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
But dacash IS the best Christian.

Much better than ANYONE else on YT.

And certainly a better person than any of the non-religious people.

And definitely better than the followers of other religions. Because they are plain WRONG.

Even JC comes to dacash for guidance.



And we know it's true by the whiney denials and self-important claims of 'not being the best, but trying to be the best I can'.

What a f*cking c*nt!
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 6:05:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
dacash, you and I both agree that Christians have a duty to share God's Word and Love. I'm not so sure we agree about why, though.

I don't believe it is *merely* for the glory of God. It's much more about drawing others to Christ in my book (which *does* glorify Him, but as an outcome, not a process). Those 'others' may be unbelievers, and they may also be fellow Christians who need correction.

While we can't know everything about God, we should see a positive product from our efforts. Your efforts w/ me ain't working. *IMHO*, you seem more interested in speaking of God's greatness w/ no regard for its effect on me than you do actually getting anywhere w/ me. You've said otherwise and I trust you believe it, but there is clearly no positive product to affirm your methods.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 6:06:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
I've asked you many times to change your tone, to *show* your Christian attributes rather than just tell me about them. I continue to see little evidence of that. You can think my terms unreasonable, or that I'm willfully blind, but if the goal really is to help *me*, *you* don't dictate the terms. So far, the tendency is for you to tell me I'm flat-out lying about my stance. Disagreeing w/ me is fine, but if you can't even respect that I'm accurately representing what I believe, there's just no way to move forward on any of this.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 9:46:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/27/14 - 6:37:17 PM Boredofu wrote:
LOL there you go making your own judgements yet bathed in your own shining virtue. I have to respect it enough to do as it says (at least to try it), and not just invent my own plan any time I don't like what it says. That's the opposite of self righteous is it? Let's make it real. You've stalked IRL all over this site for years playing your snidey little "I'm a better Christian than you" game and act like you're the angel f*cking Gabriel. You're a f*cking cockroach.

Yes, following an accepted standard vs making my own is the opposite of self righteousness.

LOL. I've stalked IRLI. That's rich.




7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 9:49:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
And there it is IRLI. I appreciate what you just said, and the spirit in which it was done. What I just responded to bored is exactly it. I believe you have to do both, and I believe that the standard is the thing. Without it, you're just on your own. And while I've never claimed - as bored and Dave seem to want to suggest - that I am the standard, I do believe that pointing *you* at the standard is more important than than "changing my tone". Because what you very much seem to mean by changing my tone is changing my meaning.

I emphasize you, because you profess Christ. If you did not, then your suggestion of trying to be all things to all men would be more appropriate. If you and I are to accept each other as Christians, then what I'm saying to you is exactly what that standard calls on us to do. You're asking me to treat you like you are not.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 11:25:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
Thanks for the opening...

The tone I refer to is the first step to whether there even is a second step. There may be some truth to your thinking I actually mean "change the meaning," but only *some*. I really do have periodic interactions w/ people where our disagreements aren't that big of a deal b/c the tone is acceptable. There isn't really any way to know for sure ahead of time unless we get to step 2, so if the tone gets in the way of that, we're never going to be able to test the theory.

I agree that how we witness to nonbelievers and how we minister to fellow Christians are different. I do not believe that w/in either category there is only one way of doing it.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 1:16:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, I haven't. But it seems that everybody with a Ph. D. have written one of these. "How to win friends, increase your IQ and get rid of zits in 12 easy steps" by Ima Bogus, Ph.D.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 4:47:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/27/14 - 6:37:17 PM Boredofu wrote:
LOL there you go making your own judgements yet bathed in your own shining virtue. I have to respect it enough to do as it says (at least to try it), and not just invent my own plan any time I don't like what it says. That's the opposite of self righteous is it? Let's make it real. You've stalked IRL all over this site for years playing your snidey little "I'm a better Christian than you" game and act like you're the angel f*cking Gabriel. You're a f*cking cockroach.
On Thursday 8/28/14 - 9:46:54 AM dacash wrote:
Yes, following an accepted standard vs making my own is the opposite of self righteousness. LOL. I've stalked IRLI. That's rich.


Yeah you barged into this thread throwing down your Christian superiority BS. No matter what way you try to spin your way around it.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 5:04:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
Really? I thought I started off making a comment that someone was claiming to use a self help book and and apparently doesn't follow its advice.

Zero to do with my own personal use of said book. Therefore zero to do with any sense that I might be superior. No spin required.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 5:09:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Right the whole I'm a better Christian than you agenda that you have bored the rest of us with for the last 10 years is just imaginary.

As I said you are a cockroach. There's really nothing more to it.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 8/28/14 - 5:54:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Bored, until maybe a year ago, you used to regularly confuse me with IRLI (and noldor, CD and half a dozen others).

Don't don't give me any "history of your post's" nonsense.

At least your description of me as a cockroach is far more acceptable to me than your description of me as self-righteous.

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