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4,761 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 15 years ago by whattowhere

Do you accept as fact that you are descended from apes or do you reject that theory?


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15 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/7/07 - 7:35:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
aslo i agree with possumeater
15 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/7/07 - 7:47:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/5/2006 8:18:19 PM HaroldtheBat wrote:
I reject THAT theory, because it's not what evolution is saying. I do wish folks would get it right before they reject it.

exactly. people need to take a science class (well, at a place where evolution is taught at least) before they form thier oppinions.

course, im a hypocrite in saying since ive never read the bible. although ive heard many times what the bible says happened, and maybe its just the fact that i wasnt raised in a church, but i cant understand why people would believe what the bible says. its a fairy tale. its just like the tooth fairy and santa bringing christmas presents threw a chimney.

some kid a long time ago asked his parents how or why we are here and they didnt know so what is says in the bible is what they told him. and now, billions of people live their lived based on it.

15 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/7/07 - 7:48:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
lives*
15 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/7/07 - 7:53:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/6/2006 9:43:55 PM possumeater wrote:
I reject that loosely thrown together theory on the fact that the person who created the theory laid out ground work on how evolution would be disproven; things like the fossil record, and irreducible complexity. This theory will be discarded by the scientific community as a whole in the next 25 years, just as it has been by a large portion of the scientific community already. True scientists admit that there is "absolutely, positively no evidence that supports macro-evolution." This is true by the way. There is no evidence that supports evolution in the least bit.

are you kidding? wheres the proof on that? i bet you found it on a christian or catholic website

and it is very highly doubtful that evolution will be rejected in 25 years, they wouldnt be teaching it in schools if there was no evidence.

15 yrs ago - Sunday 5/20/07 - 7:58:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/6/2006 9:43:55 PM possumeater wrote:
This theory will be discarded by the scientific community as a whole in the next 25 years, just as it has been by a large portion of the scientific community already.

Just out of curiosity, are you from the late 1800s? Because thats what they said about Mendel and Darwin then. By the looks of it, I doubt they're going away at all.
15 yrs ago - Sunday 5/20/07 - 8:05:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
I accept fact.
15 yrs ago - Sunday 5/20/07 - 8:10:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/4/2006 10:01:23 PM peledavid16 wrote:
I assume we have common ancestors, not that I come from them.

I agree.

15 yrs ago - Sunday 5/20/07 - 8:12:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes."


Richard Dawkins

15 yrs ago - Sunday 5/20/07 - 8:15:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/6/2006 9:43:55 PM possumeater wrote:
True scientists admit that there is "absolutely, positively no evidence that supports macro-evolution."

If you accept micro-evolution, you have no choice but to accept macro, as well. Tiny, gradual changes add up to huge differences over time (I think part of the reason so many people reject evolution is that they can't grasp the mind-blowingly vast amount of time that's involved); macro-evolution is nothing more than a lot of micro-evolution.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 6/20/07 - 6:59:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
Eh. Not from apes, but from something similar.
Anyway, I think more people have more trouble thinking that we descended from fish, and before that, one-celled organisms than something that actually looks relatively like us, but alas, people are not imaginative. They just want to, you know, be made out of playdo.
If that didn't make any sense, I can't tell because I haven't slept lately. So, sorry ahead of time.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 6/20/07 - 9:22:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/6/2006 8:57:11 PM whattowhere wrote:
If we have an ancestor in common, why did we "evolve" and the apes did not?

I think you may have been driving at this, FD, but... Aside from the "we didn't evolve from monkeys; we share a common ancestor" point it's also worth pointing out that, of a species that splits into two distinct (ie, phenotypically as well as genotypically different) species, there's no necessity for them to both change. One may (eg, due to stabilising selection) remain phenotypically the same while the other diverges. This, I think, is the more important response to the "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys" objection (as opposed to a correction of terminology).

14 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/22/07 - 9:32:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/6/2006 9:43:55 PM possumeater wrote:
I reject that loosely thrown together theory on the fact that the person who created the theory laid out ground work on how evolution would be disproven; things like the fossil record, and irreducible complexity. This theory will be
discarded by the scientific community as a whole in the next 25 years, just as it has been by a large portion of the scientific community already. True scientists admit that there is "absolutely, positively no evidence that supports macro-evolution." This is true by the way. There is no evidence that supports evolution in the least bit.

I wish everybody know that. And I'll go one step forther to say that evolution has been proven false.
if you don't believe me then copy and paste this link: http://lakecitylife.org/170527.htm
If you still don't believe me then i don't know what to tell you.

14 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/22/07 - 9:41:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
I have nothing against apes.I will never be able to accept this theory though.
14 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/22/07 - 10:10:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
I accept! I accept!
Or at the very least we share a common ancestor.
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 6:27:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
No; I am Nietzsche´s "superman". I descend from normal better but are much better than them
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 6:29:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/4/2006 10:10:01 PM _trivium wrote:
In other words, do I believe in evolution as opposed to Creationism? Yes.

If you think we came from apes you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:16:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/1/2007 6:29:19 PM tinsley wrote:
On 11/4/2006 10:10:01 PM _trivium wrote: In other words, do I believe in evolution as opposed to Creationism? Yes. If you think we came from apes you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I trust you are kidding?

14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:21:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/1/2007 7:16:11 PM AndresH wrote:
On 8/1/2007 6:29:19 PM tinsley wrote: On 11/4/2006 10:10:01 PM _trivium wrote: In other words, do I believe in evolution as opposed to Creationism? Yes. If you think we came from apes you shouldn't be allowed to vote. I trust you are kidding?

No, do you think you are descended from apes? I hope not.
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:22:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/1/2007 6:29:19 PM tinsley wrote:
On 11/4/2006 10:10:01 PM _trivium wrote: In other words, do I believe in evolution as opposed to Creationism? Yes. If you think we came from apes you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Only if the vote is for Pope
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:24:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not to dis evolution, because this doesn't anyways, but evolution does not say we descend from apes and any one dumb enough to fall for it just isn't competent.
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:26:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 7/22/2007 9:32:49 PM 53590 wrote:
http://lakecitylife.org/170527.htm If you still don't believe me then i don't know what to tell you.

An unsurprising last comment.

The man in that video is ignorant even by the standards of most creationists (with whom I've interacted). From his talk:

He claims that evolution claims there is no God.
He doesn't understand what a scientific theory is (ie, he makes the "fact/theory objection").
He appears not to understand the concept of repeatability in science.

To go on, he has no grasp whatsoever of the basic principles of evolutionary theory:
He starts by conflating it with big bang cosmology (which he also manages to misrepresent in a fundamental way).
He appears not to know of the mechanism of natural selection.
He doesn't understand the concept of incremental change (assuming a form of saltationism that...

14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:30:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
...is extreme even by the standards of saltationism).
He doesn't understand common descent or coevolution:
He believes evolution to claim not only that the "first human" arose as a spontaneously-generated zygote, but also that we were lucky enough that both a male and a female arose at the same time (and that the same happened for all species). And on this, he also believes the "chance" element in the above is "solved" by the Adam and Eve story.
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:30:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, tinsley, depends on how you define an ape.

Were the australopithicenes apes? The term we used for them in my school (in icelandic) translates roughly to half-apes.

Were the ancestors of the australopithicenes apes?

So long as we're just discussing semantics with a slight disagreement because of inexact translations and loose definitions, I don't think this is a problem.

14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 8/1/07 - 7:35:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think it is easy enough to define ape as the modern ape, seeing as how there are still apes.
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 8/23/07 - 5:35:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
I am not saying anything on this except that I though there would be an eight page argument.

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