WASHINGTON - The investigation of the treatment of prisoners from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has  recently uncovered 12 more detainees who have died in U.S. custody. Defense officials told reporters that the Army had investigated the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five others in Afghanistan since August 2002, 12 more than the Defense Department reported two weeks ago. The victims are from 33 separate cases, two of which involved more than one death. 

Nine of the cases remain open, and eight of those are classified as homicides, NBC News’ Tom Busby reported. Those deaths, six of which occurred in Iraq, are believed to have followed assaults by U.S. soldiers before, during or after interrogations...

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159,202 hits 2.5 (2 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 18 years ago by KikiPeepers

Do you think it's really all that surprising that Iraq detainees are being abused and killed, considering people who voluntarily join the military have no problem with violence?
WASHINGTON - The investigation of the treatment of prisoners from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has recently uncovered 12 more detainees who have died in U.S. custody. Defense officials told reporters that the Army had investigated the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five others in Afghanistan since August 2002, 12 more than the Defense Department reported two weeks ago. The victims are from 33 separate cases, two of which involved more than one death.

Nine of the cases remain open, and eight of those are classified as homicides, NBC News’ Tom Busby reported. Those deaths, six of which occurred in Iraq, are believed to have followed assaults by U.S. soldiers before, during or after interrogations...

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17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Monday 4/4/05 - 2:37:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/15/05 - 3:46:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
Kiki. Just one question... Do you remember the video that was sent to the president, the one where the captors were just talking and demanding that troops be pulled out of somewhere in the middle east (sorry can't remember where) and they just CHOPPED HIS DAMN HEAD OFF!!!!!! I am not saying that I condone what these soldiers but think about this is that man had been your dad wouldn't you be screaming for blood? Now another question... You get drafted and end up going to war... You are in the same unit as your best friend (you have known eachother all your life) and you see white flags being raised and as you and your friend approach that white flag expecting a surrender your friend gets blown up or shot in the face or some other gruesome thing... Don't you think that would mess you up a little too? You don't have a clue about what these people go through or see on a daily basis. I can't believe you would make the comments that you are making!
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/15/05 - 9:18:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
They signed up for it, didn't they? I'm sure it IS horrible enough there to make people go crazy and do stuff they normally wouldn't. But wouldn't most people know that would probably be the case in a war situation?

And Nick Berg is the name of the man who had his head chopped off - and he had nothing to do with the military, or any war America is leading. He went there on his own, with his own agendas, and didn't leave when the military told him to. That doesn't mean he deserved to be killed, but again, it's a situation that he put himself in.

17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/15/05 - 11:33:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 4/16/05 - 12:12:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's amazing we didn't just kill them where we found them.
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/20/05 - 9:42:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
Let's clear something up here, it seems to have been brought up by a couple of the more 'hard of thinking' members of YT.

IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. There were no Iraqi nationals involved, Iraqi funding wasn't used, nor was the training carried out in Iraq.

In fact, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Suadis, the funds came from Saudi accounts and the training took place in America. Osama Bin Laden is a Suadi and the Saudi Government had no problem whatsoever with him or his terrorist group.

This is why Afghanistan, then Iraq were the obvious choices?

BTW, there is NEVER an excuse for abusing POW's. 'I was just follows orders' didn't wash at Nuremberg, it won't wash now.

17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/20/05 - 10:02:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
Haha ... I have this in the picture section of my profile...


17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/20/05 - 10:23:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
So who will he attack if the Saudis have another go? North Korea? Iran? Canada?
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/20/05 - 8:15:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Right, like what happened at nuremburg is somehow comprable.*sigh*
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/20/05 - 8:51:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, all of you people who believe that people who sign up for the army are all violent and don't know how to solve problems without killing are full of crap and out of touch with reality, and I say this to you now with good points to make:
A)The army teaches morals, something that most americans don't have today, and teaches discipline alson
B)The army only attacks Defensively; do you REALLY honestly think we would've gone into Iraq if they had not done something towards us? D
c)While this isn't a good point, my grandpa fought in veitnam and he is a perfectly good, god fearing person.
IN CONLCLUSION- Y'ALL ARE FULL OF BS
thank you,
Olivia
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/20/05 - 9:12:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
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17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/21/05 - 2:47:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah nice morals 'Olivia' ... go kill innocent people for profit. I must have missed that part in the Bible during my Sunday School classes
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/21/05 - 4:36:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's not cause that's why they join the military: To defend they're country from terrorists,people who want to invade it because of strategy reasons etc.
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 5/3/05 - 11:26:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
"I am currently serving in the U.S. military. I and so many like me are not violent people, just people who are serving and protecting their country. If it was possible we would never use violence but do you really think that most countries want to sit down and just talk it over? No. If you have never served and really seen what's it like to be in the military than you should tone down your insults to issues you know what you're talking about. I volunteered with pride to join and I still have pride. I have no problem with anyone's opinions but please remember why your so freely able to state your opinions."

Right on fraggle. I'm with you. I am currently stationed in VA, but I have been there!

17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 5/3/05 - 11:29:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh and just because we are soldiers/sailors/and airmen does not mean that we support this particular war. We do what we have to because that is how the chain of command works.

We are in the military to support our COUNTRY, not the WAR.

17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 5/5/05 - 10:37:38 AM EST (GMT-5)
"We do what we have to because that is how the chain of command works."

Again, that's what the Nazis said. Whatever happened to thinking for yourself? If you object the war, can't you be a con...don'tknowhowtospellit objector?

17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 5/12/05 - 9:35:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's because power corrupts.

I don't think it's to do with where people are from or because they are in the army. I know there was a controversial psycological experiment that was carried out at a US university a while ago (70's) studying how a group of students would behave when put in the position of prison guards and what they would do to the students who played the role of inmates. The experiment had to be stopped early as the guards became violent and sadistic. The conclusion was that boredom created an environment where the guards would just make inmates do stuff just to pass time.

I think the US and British soldiers in Iraq are doind a very difficult job in what is probably the closest to hell on earth at the moment.

17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 5/12/05 - 9:46:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
Already mentioned... Stanford prison experiment.

Not quite half the guards did that, though; some of the guards took on the nice-guard role while the more oppressive ones weren't around.

17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 12:49:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 12:54:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
Someone is a fecking idiot.
17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 12:58:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
Harman, a former pizza shop manager from northern Virginia, is the second soldier to be tried for allegedly mistreating detainees in the Abu Ghraib scandal. The defense began presenting its case Monday morning and wrapped up later in the day without calling Harman to the stand.

nuff said

17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 1:06:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
kiki die.
17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 1:31:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
Said like a true warrior
17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 2:57:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
'nuff said? I don't see what you're getting at. If he didn't take the stand, then it was to avoid perjury and take the fifth...
17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/17/05 - 10:31:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
She's obviously too brainwashed to understand

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