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1,736 hits 3.3 (6 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 11 years ago by glennh70

Should maps and education systems make a move towards using local names for countries rather than just English names?


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11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:11:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
as long as German maps stop calling France "Frankreich," French maps stop calling England "Angleterre," etc
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:23:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:11:56 PM anthraxrocks wrote:
as long as German maps stop calling France "Frankreich," French maps stop calling England "Angleterre," etc

So this the typical American "Why should we do it when no one else does?" thinking?

Very constructive.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:44:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
I voted yes
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:53:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:44:49 PM anthraxrocks wrote:
I voted yes

It's a start
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:55:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:23:25 PM mynameismike wrote:
So this the typical American "Why should we do it when no one else does?" thinking? Very constructive.


While I obviously can't vouch for the reasoning, I don't see anything wrong with his conclusion. Clearly if users of other languages are doing the same, then they don't find it offensive or patronising in any way, and that's the only reason I can see for changing it. Actually I don't care either way, but it seems pointless to make a conscious effort to do something which no one cares about.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 2:08:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
I can't imagine Rzeczpospolita Polska instead of Poland EVER catching on. But in general I do agree that a form as close as possible in translation to the local name is probably the way to go.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 2:10:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 2:08:30 PM HarryNJ wrote:
I can't imagine Rzeczpospolita Polska instead of Poland EVER catching on. But in general I do agree that a form as close as possible in translation to the local name is probably the way to go.

I'm guessing the full name will be rarely used. Much like no one ever calls Russia "The Russian Federation", colloquially
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 2:16:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:23:25 PM mynameismike wrote:
So this the typical American "Why should we do it when no one else does?" thinking? Very constructive.
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 1:55:50 PM Qpax wrote:
While I obviously can't vouch for the reasoning, I don't see anything wrong with his conclusion. Clearly if users of other languages are doing the same, then they don't find it offensive or patronising in any way, and that's the only reason I can see for changing it. Actually I don't care either way, but it seems pointless to make a conscious effort to do something which no one cares about.


Reasons for changing it - everybody would end up using the same word for each place, and therefore it'd be far easier for speakers of different languages to understand each other.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 4:01:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
It would make more sense...
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 5:03:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
It'd be a fun way to get a little more insight on other country's languages.
I'd like the change.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 5:12:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Perhaps the short local language name of the country under the accepted English one, vis: Poland (Polska), Germany (Deutschland) etc.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 5:58:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
No way. Just think about how many countries there are on the world, and how much it would suck to have to learn all of their names... And it´s not like there have been many problems caused by different names in different languages for a country isn´t it?
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 6:05:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 5:58:14 PM Dooked wrote:
No way. Just think about how many countries there are on the world, and how much it would suck to have to learn all of their names... And it´s not like there have been many problems caused by different names in different languages for a country isn´t it?

You best be trolling.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 7:08:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
When the Armen and Hay tribes united (in classical antiquity) they agreed that the name of the new nation should be, among themselves, Hayastan, and for foreigners Armenia. If that's what they wanted, why should we not respect that?
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 7:31:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
That's a cool idea, countries should be better known by the names their citizens call it.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 8:01:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 2:08:30 PM HarryNJ wrote:
I can't imagine Rzeczpospolita Polska instead of Poland EVER catching on. But in general I do agree that a form as close as possible in translation to the local name is probably the way to go.


It's easy to remember Polska though. You just think of polka and add an s.

I voted yes as well cause the term "greece" is wrong. It should be Hellas.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 8/26/09 - 8:13:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 8/26/09 - 2:16:27 PM secretbitch wrote:
Reasons for changing it - everybody would end up using the same word for each place, and therefore it'd be far easier for speakers of different languages to understand each other.


Well true, but ideally that would be the ultimate goal for all language, not just place names. And if we were to do that, of course place names would be included.
11 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 8/27/09 - 6:58:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes but I think it would cause a lot of confusion for the old school map learners. That would be a downside.



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