The past two days, the New York Times has run top story articles showing how different religious organizations are taking advantage of their legal protection for purely financial gain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/business/09religious.html?th&emc=th
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/business/08religious.html?th&emc=th

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Is organized religion overstepping its legal bounds in the US?
The past two days, the New York Times has run top story articles showing how different religious organizations are taking advantage of their legal protection for purely financial gain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/b...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/b...

They are long reads but interesting. 10 years ago this would have been a non-issue.


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15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 10/16/06 - 3:46:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oye
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 10/16/06 - 7:03:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
Who's going to tell them not to? Just one tug on the country's heart strings is all they need.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 10/17/06 - 5:38:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
this question is so weird lol
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 10/17/06 - 6:33:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, duh. They have so much f*cking protection from the law that they are untouchable. They can do whatever they want and get away with it.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/18/06 - 4:59:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
I say let em pay taxes. They will affect government on all levels as long as religous men and women are elected and appointed to office. Might as well make it fair to the atheists who put up with it.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/18/06 - 5:08:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
In the clip for that Jesus Camp movie there's a guy saying if they band together and all vote the same way they can control the way the country is run, since they're in the majority.

But religious groups be they legitimate or not have always taken advantage of tax free charitable organisation status.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/18/06 - 6:00:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
what exactly is this power you all speak of?
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/19/06 - 6:53:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
How is a religious organisation a charity?
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/19/06 - 5:00:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/19/2006 6:53:47 AM newtownninja wrote:
How is a religious organisation a charity?

Why wouldn't they be a charity? Many religions have helping the 'less fortunate' as one of their main activities...
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/19/06 - 5:10:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
the church of satan is one of the only religions which does not try to exempt itself from taxes
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/19/06 - 6:04:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/19/2006 5:00:21 PM CowDung wrote:
On 10/19/2006 6:53:47 AM newtownninja wrote: How is a religious organisation a charity? Why wouldn't they be a charity? Many religions have helping the 'less fortunate' as one of their main activities...

I don't think so.

I mean I have no troubles with charity organisations that have a religious affiliation getting breaks.

But religious groups who just happen to do some charity work shouldn't get anything.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Friday 10/20/06 - 12:25:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
"just happen to do some charity work"? Have you any clue as to how many hospitals have been established by religious organizations? Homeless shelters? Orhpanages? Soup kitchens? Schools?

Charity work is a major part of many religious organizations. Why should you deny a religious group's status as a charitable organization when the vast majority of their resources goes toward helping other people?

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Friday 10/20/06 - 6:29:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/20/2006 12:25:07 AM CowDung wrote:
"just happen to do some charity work"? Have you any clue as to how many hospitals have been established by religious organizations? Homeless shelters? Orhpanages? Soup kitchens? Schools? Charity work is a major part of many religious organizations. Why should you deny a religious group's status as a charitable organization when the vast majority of their resources goes toward helping other people?

Like I said before.

On 10/19/2006 6:04:17 PM newtownninja wrote:
I have no troubles with charity organisations that have a religious affiliation getting breaks.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Friday 10/20/06 - 5:01:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Is organized religion overstepping it's legal bounds in the US?"

It is legal bounds? Do we have the kindergarten special ed class approving questions again?

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Friday 10/20/06 - 5:18:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
That's rich coming from you, Kiki. I've corrected plenty of questions that fell foul of your "skills" in the question editing department.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Saturday 10/21/06 - 12:55:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
I seriously doubt that, you don't have to lie to kick it
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Saturday 10/21/06 - 12:59:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
The reason they stood out was that your name was on them, and yet then (as now) you'd sanctimoniously go on about your literary brilliance in that charming and winning style you have.
15 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 12/27/06 - 9:11:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yes! Yes it is! It should be stopped!
15 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 12/27/06 - 9:58:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
I was going to say "No, they are overstepping their place, but not their *legal* bounds with regard to their influence on politics. They do not honor the separation of church and state, but they are within their rights to voice their views and attempt to influence the political process. It's up to the courts and politicians themselves to draw the line."
However, then I saw the story, and I can tell you without even looking at the links that I have heard of certain cases where such tax breaks have been abused.
15 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 1/8/07 - 8:43:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, most religions are more cult-like now.



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