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3,152 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 15 years ago by Nahtee

Are we hypocrites when we denounce certain sects of Islam for their religious persecution when other religions such as Christianity have inflicted persecution in the past?


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15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Friday 9/1/06 - 2:29:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sorta yes and sorta no. To automatically assume that everyone who is Islamic believes in that and that is all their religion is about is wrong. The Christians are crusading anymore, and really, when you think about it, it's different motives. The christians were trying to gain land and converts. These people are just trying to kill others. Neither of which is right.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Friday 9/1/06 - 2:31:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
Religion is fraud.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Friday 9/1/06 - 2:50:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wow. Aparently I was completely twaked out when I wrote that. I don't care to do it over though.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Friday 9/1/06 - 3:14:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, it's not hypocritical to call out any group of people for persecution, regardless of what other random groups have done similarly in the past.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Friday 9/1/06 - 3:21:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think not denouncing Christianity for past acts is hypocritical. It would be stupid to waste time condemning past actions; more time should be spent examining the present, and I don't think there is a shortage of critics of modern Christianity.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 9/2/06 - 3:03:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, because Christians are the only ones who are ever right about anything. So, when we persecute the evil islams, it's okay.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 9/4/06 - 11:43:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 9/2/2006 3:03:46 AM lossprevent wrote:
No, because Christians are the only ones who are ever right about anything. So, when we persecute the evil islams, it's okay.


not how i would word it, but same basic point.

15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/5/06 - 5:36:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Christians don't do it anymore. A religion today cannot be held responsible for things done in the past, as long as they don't affect the religion's policy today.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/5/06 - 6:01:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
There are still plenty of Christian denominations who are just a bomb short of the same intolerance of certain Islamic groups. I think we should keep a watchful eye on any group that preaches intolerance, hate, and who menaces others. For the most part we do a pretty good job, I think. Christians should welcome exposure and monitoring of those among them who give them a bad name.
15 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 9/28/06 - 6:02:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yep.
15 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 9/28/06 - 6:06:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
Teach - How do you deliniate intolerance and hate from discernment?
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/26/06 - 8:10:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
So christians of the present should turn a blind eye to current injustices just because some christians in the past were unjust...and that helps how?
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/26/06 - 8:20:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
Only if you don't denounce the christians who did the persecution as well.

You can't hold a whole ethnic or religious group responsible for the actions of a few...or even a lot. Especially if the major offenses occured in the past and were committed by people who are now long dead. You can't be held responsible for what someone else did, simple as that.

However, if a sect is obviously being bad on a regular basis, one would assume that someone who didn't like it and didn't agree with it, would have either spoken out against it, or left the sect.

Being a hypocrite is when you disagree with an action someone else takes, but think it is ok when you (or someone you consider to be 'on your team') do it.

Like say, condemning torture and bad treatment of prisoners in China, but saying it's special circumstances and a whole different matter when done by your own country, for example.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/26/06 - 5:27:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
YES.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 11/9/06 - 2:52:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 9/2/2006 3:03:46 AM lossprevent wrote:
No, because Christians are the only ones who are ever right about anything. So, when we persecute the evil islams, it's okay.

You are joking right?
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 11/9/06 - 3:01:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
*I'm* not a hypocrite, I denounce all religions equally for their irrationality and violence.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 11/9/06 - 4:37:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
No religions are perfect.

And that includes atheism

I mean, if anyone needs to stop putting themselves on a goddam moral pedestal...

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 11/9/06 - 4:43:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
Why include atheism as a religion, seeing that it's specifically the absence of religion, and only occasionally do any two atheists believe exactly the same things.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 11/9/06 - 4:51:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
I consider it kind of a religion if it makes any sense.

I don't mean that toward every atheist, just the ignorant and close-minded ones. They anger me.

Who's to say I'm not atheist/agnostic? That doesn't matter, though.

I just have very low tolerance for people who look down upon others who believe in a god. It's not fair and it's hypocritical.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 11/9/06 - 4:53:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
first it was the Catholics, not christianity as a whole, second that was quite a while ago.
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/18/06 - 7:10:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/9/2006 4:53:46 PM tinsley wrote:
first it was the Catholics, not christianity as a whole, second that was quite a while ago.

The Protestants were just as willing to persecute the Catholics, and both Catholics and Protestants were happy to burn witches.

And there are still Christians who bomb abortion clinics while people are still in them.

Meanwhile, I would denounce those Moslem people who persecute others, but I would not denounce entire sects. Most people of all sects are decent, hardworking people who have no interest in killing anyone.

Equally, I would denounce those Christian people who persecute others, both now and in the past, but I would not denounce entire religion, or any of the various sects within the Christian religion.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/18/06 - 7:29:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/26/2006 8:20:46 AM AndresH wrote:
Only if you don't denounce the christians who did the persecution as well. You can't hold a whole ethnic or religious group responsible for the actions of a few...or even a lot. Especially if the major offenses occured in the past and were committed by people who are now long dead. You can't be held responsible for what someone else did, simple as that. However, if a sect is obviously being bad on a regular basis, one would assume that someone who didn't like it and didn't agree with it, would have either spoken out against it, or left the sect. Being a hypocrite is when you disagree with an action someone else takes, but think it is ok when you (or someone you consider to be 'on your team') do it. Like say, condemning torture and bad treatment of prisoners in China, but saying it's special circumstances and a whole different matter when done by your own country, for example.

I agree with this.
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/18/06 - 9:04:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
REAL Christians never did that.
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/18/06 - 9:56:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/18/2006 9:04:45 PM Slyce wrote:
REAL Christians never did that.

By the same reasoning, REAL moslims don't do this either.
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/18/06 - 10:48:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
WE? nope I denouce the actions of Christians as well as Muslim extremeists.

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