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2,761 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 19 years ago by dimension

Will religion ever die out?


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19 yrs ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 6:50:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
One thing I don't get about EVERY religion is some sort of labor with absoulutely NO material gain. For instance the Pyramids. Thousands of man hours for what? to house the dead? Even something seemingly as small as going to church every sunday has two hours or more of brainwashing with no real gain from it. WAKE UP!! People will you please snap out of being idiots.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 10/7/03 - 3:37:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
It is not a waste of time if you enjoy it and/or get something out of it (though more accurately, we're giving to God, not taking).
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 10/7/03 - 8:54:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, obviously uncle. I have an opinion that determines how I view everything. I'm sorry if I made it sound like I was stating a fact. I just personaly believe that religion has done more bad then good. Besides. I'm do believe in God, just not in religion, and I understand what it signifies to many.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 10/7/03 - 8:58:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
state like it's a fact all you like, it's practically obligatory on these threads!
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 10/7/03 - 8:58:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
as long as the unexplained remains unexplained, religion will too remain in tact...thats what i think

religion was developed as a scapegoat to explain phenomena that the modern science of the peoples could not explain

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 10/7/03 - 9:06:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah but people also use it to justify about anything. They are homophobic because apparently god said so, they hate other races - blame it on God who made *them* special and every other religion 'evil' and inferior. I am a vegetarian- 'but why? in the bible everyone eats meat! so that's how YOU should live' What does that have to do with anything????
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 10/8/03 - 2:10:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
You need to eliminate this lag time between responses if we're going to debate anything, justme333. Opinions are what they are, and you're entitled to have them, but when they aren't supported or presented as opinions, expect to be called on the carpet about it.

"religion was developed as a scapegoat to explain phenomena that the modern science of the peoples could not explain"
Congratulations on understanding the very definition of faith, RoachI2k, even if your understanding of reality is off. Now, what about it?

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/19/03 - 5:47:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
Religion won't die out. There will alwasys be some type of belief in something, therefore making it a religion. It could just be all scintific, but if there is a belief of science behind it, it's the belief that makes it a religion. Or it could be spiritual, but religion will never die out
18 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Thursday 1/29/04 - 8:36:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
I would wish it would.. just a little bit please.. gosh
18 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Thursday 1/29/04 - 3:52:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
I seriously doubt it; it's evolved into us.
18 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Thursday 1/29/04 - 4:03:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
Doubtful. It's lasted this long, and people in the past have said the same thing - that science will disprove it and the world will know better, but so far that hasn't really happened.

In any case, I certainly hope not.

18 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Thursday 1/29/04 - 4:11:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
I doubt disproving it - if such is possible - would have anything to do with it. People are not religious because they have weighed up the evidence. It's hardwired into us.
18 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Friday 1/30/04 - 11:33:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
I doubt it.
Maybe religion is hardwired into us, I've heard of studies showing this.

Being someone who believes in God I'm going to be more likely to say no, as religion is simply human tradition with God (or gods, or any other kinds of supernatural powers) as the focal point.
And I don't think human tradition will ever die out.

18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 4:47:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
"I doubt disproving it - if such is possible - would have anything to do with it. People are not religious because they have weighed up the evidence. It's hardwired into us."
As far as I'm concerned I have emotions, chemicals do not, therefore I am more then just chemistry therefore there is somthing in me science cannot explain (aka, a soul)I've weighed up the evidence, rationaly, and now I'm theist.
Of course I veiw athism as a religion, granted on that worships coincidence as the force that moves the universe but a faith none the less, as you have no way to disprove supernatural influences as a whole. Therefore, no, everybody is religious, and it is imposable to be otherwise
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 2:29:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
Atheism really does not involve faith. Given that we have no reason to believe in non-natural entities generally, it is merely parsimony that leads to atheism, and that is purely rational.

Your analogy seems not to work as you intend, furthermore. A robot of a particular sort detects and responds to a light source, for example, yet the materials from which it is made do not. The robot's properties are the product of its construction. Emotions as you describe them are as well, and their neural and chemical basis are well-described scientifically. It's no coincidence that chemicals affect emotion and mood to the degree they do. Even if were strictly true that emotion hasn't been (or perhaps cannot be) explained by science (as might be said, for the time being, of consciousness), that's not in itself reason, beyond personal incredulity, to think there is indeed a non-natural cause.

18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:11:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
when the world ends.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:30:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Religion will be replaced by humanistic atheism. Religions have a compassionate side as any human culture has ingrained, but religion also has quite a dark history attached to it.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:33:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
^They said that 200 years ago.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:35:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh, and 80 years ago, in Russia.
Didn't work out too well.

The dark history is owed directly to humanity. People will find another excuse to look out for only themselves if religion ceases to be.

18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:36:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, people are generally moronic. Because faith is a cope out from intellectual integrity.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:38:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
I hate that idiotic unfounded "Without religion, people will go morally ballistic" argument for sustaining religion. Maybe without religion we will see -morally- more clearer?
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:41:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
As a person who has belief, I'll respectfully disagree.

Do you honestly think a lack of religious faith would really bring about a civilization that is at all better?

And of course I'd love to see what intellectual integrity has to do with altruistic morality.

Can you explain by reason doing something that has no benefit to yourself simply because it's the "right" thing to do?

18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:41:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
I never said people would be more immoral without religion.
I said it wouldn't be any different.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:44:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, of course a lack of religion would not lead to moral decline; morality is also ingrained. In fact, given that religion is probably significantly a by product of normal cognitive mechanisms, it was probably religion that was the explanation for morality's existence. We only have access to a tiny fraction of neural processing, and so there is a natural "mystery" in the source of our moral intuitions which is in need of explanation.

Anyway, benefit to the group, which may not be the "best" thing for the individual, can easily evolve.

18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Wednesday 2/18/04 - 3:46:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Humanity no longer needs religion. It will eventually fade away, either that or destroy us all.

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