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2,735 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 18 years ago by dimension

Will religion ever die out?


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18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 8:49:30 AM EST (GMT-5)
I didn't mean religious people, I meant everyone. People are not likely going to just evolve into complete non-arrogance, and religious institutions are not going to disappear. I hope.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 8:50:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
That's where we differ in opinion UncleLaughie, by which I don't mean to say that I consider all of them to be bad institutions.

BUT I do consider all of them to be very dangerous institutions, not per say more prone to being corrupted then secular institutions (prolly less prone most of them), but they are lacking in some extend part of the self-correcting and society's peer control that most secular institutions do.

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 8:55:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ah, thanks for clarifying, Shaded.

I have issues with plenty of religious institutions, zaraphel, but the ones that are avaoiding the failings of this world and its temptations (and it is an ongoing battle) are far and away better than anything else, imo. I totally disagree with the absoluteness of your statement about danger, and 99% disagree with the idea that they lack the self-correcting tools secular society has.

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 8:58:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
Sorry, my "I consider" was meant to include the last part of my post(starting with they are lacking...).

I do realize that I presented that part as a fact rather than an opinion, and I would like to write that up to the fact that English is not my native tongue.

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 9:52:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ah, I didn't realize that. I'll try to remember to try to keep it in mind from now on.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 10:53:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
no. there will always have to be some way to justify certain things. and people will always need to take comfort in believing things like that.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 4:07:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Religion will never die out because people need the concept in order to measure there pain.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/4/03 - 5:10:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
Probably not. Religion is hope for so many people. It's just ashame that it has caused more bad then good. I personally don't believe in it but I doubt it will ever completely dissapear although there are more and more people who stop believing in it and the next generations will probably absorb some of those principles.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 12:53:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
"It's just ashame that it has caused more bad then good. I personally don't believe in it..."
Your second opinion explains the first.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 12:55:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
i think that it wont completely. but people will eventually start to see the truth. and then they will stop brain washing their children. good question.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 12:56:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think religions will be around for a fair while yet. Although they'll change, and adapt, and so forth.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 12:58:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
i dont think it will die out completly, like Duddits said, just less people will beleive in it.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 12:59:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
I already see the truth, prez1985.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 12:59:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
believe*
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 5:36:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
First of all. I do not believe in a god but I do agree with most of the teachings. I believe the Ten Commandments r a great guideline to a good life. It is all spiritual to me. It might not be god but there is something in us all. I have to vote no.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/5/03 - 5:50:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
and your point is Uncle...?
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 1:17:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
for those who think it won't--consider the change in the UK over the last 20 years. It practically has died already and I've seen award winning scholars write that it's the same pattern across Europe.

Even if the whole world admits that there might be something 'out there' but theres no use talking about it and it sure as hell doesn't offer any assistance when you have a problem; would you still call that religion?

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 1:21:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
It depends on the situation of the country. I can see why the UK may be becoming this way, but places like the US where we need to justify our desire to go around killing people has to be encompassed with a holy power.
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 2:18:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think so, everybody will have their own religion ---> ME
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 2:40:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
It is that you don't believe that determines your opinion that religion has done more harm than good, justme333, or were you just being dismissive?
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 3:04:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
Religion, amongst other things, is one explanation of reality. It happens to be the oldest, but that does not mean it necessarily is the most unreasonable.

Many people find religion to be too outrageous to be seriously believed. In fact, many people who are 'members' of different religions, I think, feel this way.

The thing that makes it arrogant for atheists to refuse to consider religion to be a competitive explanation of reality is that they themselves don't have any better explanation.

The truth is, reality is outrageous enough that the human mind is totally incapable of understanding some of the most basic questions pertaining to our existence.

Religion is thought by some to be contrary to science. The science of which they speak is either "Religion is not provable therefore it is not scientific" or "something contrary to religion has already been scientifically proven."

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 3:18:40 AM EST (GMT-5)
[Sorry about the bad composition of the third paragraph there.] The thing is, not only has science certainly NOT proven anything contrary to, say, the existence of God; but in fact the very fundamental and unfathomable questions of our existence that I spoke of above are not answerable with science. Science is observation, nothing that cannot be observed is scientific. Therefore, a simple question like, "How did the human race originate" cannot be answered with science because nobody could observe anything that would bring that about.

Evolution for example, whether it is true or not, cannot be thought of as a question of science, but rather as a question of philosophy - because it hasn't been proven or observed.

When people say, "Religion is a load of rubbish," well that may be true, but reality itself is a load of rubbish. You either believe some rubbish religion (like me) or you believe some rubbish absence of religion.

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 3:27:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
The point is, you can't proove it either way, so it's all about belief.

When you ask, "Will religion die out?" I think you are assuming that religion has or will be proven to be false.

Which is simply not true. You may have faith in something other than what I have faith in, or you may have no faith at all, but you simply don't have the option of observing the full extent of reality, because it was never intended that reality would be that logical and understandable.

[I do apoligize for posting three times, I have a new computer and I am using YT as a chance to type recreationally.]

Taking the question from a less personal perspective, I think that even if religion was false, and proven to be so, it still would not only be around, but would be widely accepted - afterall, there are the Hindus who believe the world is suspended upon the back of a giant tortuise and I think that's been disproved well enough by now.

18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 10:06:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
ummmmm, very interesting, just to say, people who are christians, I would expect alot to believe that the world will end, far before there would eb a possibility of religion dieing out...
18 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 10/6/03 - 6:46:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think it will take a while but religion won't go away. Let them wallow in thier ignorance. The only reason religion is so prevelent is because it gives easy answers to things science can't fully explain yet. People need explanations for things like death.

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