WASHINGTON - The investigation of the treatment of prisoners from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has  recently uncovered 12 more detainees who have died in U.S. custody. Defense officials told reporters that the Army had investigated the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five others in Afghanistan since August 2002, 12 more than the Defense Department reported two weeks ago. The victims are from 33 separate cases, two of which involved more than one death. 

Nine of the cases remain open, and eight of those are classified as homicides, NBC News’ Tom Busby reported. Those deaths, six of which occurred in Iraq, are believed to have followed assaults by U.S. soldiers before, during or after interrogations...

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Do you think it's really all that surprising that Iraq detainees are being abused and killed, considering people who voluntarily join the military have no problem with violence?
WASHINGTON - The investigation of the treatment of prisoners from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has recently uncovered 12 more detainees who have died in U.S. custody. Defense officials told reporters that the Army had investigated the deaths of 32 detainees in Iraq and five others in Afghanistan since August 2002, 12 more than the Defense Department reported two weeks ago. The victims are from 33 separate cases, two of which involved more than one death.

Nine of the cases remain open, and eight of those are classified as homicides, NBC News’ Tom Busby reported. Those deaths, six of which occurred in Iraq, are believed to have followed assaults by U.S. soldiers before, during or after interrogations...

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15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 6:47:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
This is war, the enemy SHOULD be tortured and killed.
15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 7:36:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/28/2007 6:44:37 PM tinsley wrote:
kiki, everyone is capable of killing. Many are just unwilling. I really don't think killing people came across a lot of people's minds before they joined.

How could it not?! Here are my reasons for not joining the Army:

1. I don't want to be killed
2. I don't want to kill anyone else
3. I don't like to be yelled at

I don't even have to think hard, those are automatics. I have a million other smaller reasons but those are the biggies.

15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:05:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
Most people join the military to serve their country, not to kill people.

Unfortunately, sometimes that's how you have to serve your country. Nobody wants to go to war, but it's occasionally necessary.

15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:10:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
I have to say most people join the military for a job. At least before the whole 9/11 happened. I even after I know a lot of people who have joined or plan on joining simply for a job.

kiki,
1. the military is hardly a death sentence. Deaths are pretty low, and we aren't always at war.
2. You don't have to, you could easily find a place in communications and what not.
3. You'd get used to it.

15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:24:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
Anyone who joins for a job has a death wish, imo. I'd rather be unemployed than dead. Or injured somehow ... deaths are NOT low, at least not in Iraq.
15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:30:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
When you consider the multiple 100k troops that have been there and only a few thousand have died, it is pretty low. For americans at least.

Again we aren't always in a war, so a job is not a death wish. Enlisting doesn't mean you are going to Iraq anyways. And some people see it as the last option they have to feeding their families.

15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:55:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/28/2007 6:47:43 PM harlotoscara wrote:
This is war, the enemy SHOULD be tortured and killed.

I wouldn't say that anybody deserves to be tortured or killed, and it should only be used as a preventative measure if they'll surely kill others later.

15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 11:13:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would say it's more because of the comparatively lax selection standards of the US military.
15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 11:16:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
To the contrary, any sort of breach of conduct usually results in an instant dishonorary discharge.
15 yrs ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 11:22:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Nothing is ever quick in the army, but yeah like he said they would be article 15'd.
15 yrs ago - Wednesday 8/29/07 - 1:22:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/28/2007 10:55:43 PM Kungfullama wrote:
On 8/28/2007 6:47:43 PM harlotoscara wrote: This is war, the enemy SHOULD be tortured and killed. I wouldn't say that anybody deserves to be tortured or killed, and it should only be used as a preventative measure if they'll surely kill others later.

That's my point.. if they're going to kill others or otherwise harm us later then they are the enemy.

15 yrs ago - Wednesday 8/29/07 - 4:53:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't see things in such stark black and white, but for the most part you're correct.
13 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/12/09 - 4:56:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Good Lord...maybe if they took more care of mental health this wouldn't happen

Soldier allegedly kills 5 peers at ‘stress clinic’
13 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/12/09 - 4:59:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:05:57 PM Kungfullama wrote:
Most people join the military to serve their country, not to kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes that's how you have to serve your country. Nobody wants to go to war, but it's occasionally necessary.


Bullpoo. There are plenty of ways to serve your country that don't involve the military or violence. For instance, I believe you volunteer in a hospital. And if nobody wanted to go to war, it wouldn't occur.
12 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/17/09 - 8:41:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
These dudes tortured their own 'buddies'!

Court-martial of 2 soldiers weighed in Iraq discipline cases
12 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 10/17/09 - 9:41:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
oh dear...
this is why I don't like the questions forum! it dregs back my silly past!

ignore everything I said prior to this. haha
12 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/18/09 - 10:26:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 8/28/07 - 10:05:57 PM Kungfullama wrote:
Most people join the military to serve their country, not to kill people. Unfortunately, sometimes that's how you have to serve your country. Nobody wants to go to war, but it's occasionally necessary.
On Tuesday 5/12/09 - 4:59:47 PM catchall wrote:
Bullpoo. There are plenty of ways to serve your country that don't involve the military or violence. For instance, I believe you volunteer in a hospital. And if nobody wanted to go to war, it wouldn't occur.


Volunteering at a hospital doesn't pay for college...

Lots of people join the military to get their education paid for.


12 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/18/09 - 11:43:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 10/17/09 - 9:41:15 PM Kungfullama wrote:
oh dear... this is why I don't like the questions forum! it dregs back my silly past! ignore everything I said prior to this. haha

So now you believe that the only reason people join the military is to kill?

Maybe you should stick with your former opinion on this subject, because otherwise, you're just a complete moron.
12 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 10/18/09 - 11:52:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
not that either, but I suppose that's closer than what I was saying earlier.

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